Haslab Projects General Discussion

[Zeroflamez]

Originally Posted by cloud

I see a lot of talks about Hasbro being greedy. I don't know what make you guys came to that conclusion but it's just business.
They nneed to make money and that's it.
And on the contrary. They have a price point they want to set but also they are aware if it's too expensive, they will lose sales.
The HasLab projects exists for a reason. They don't fit the retail model. Or as exclusives.

At the end, don't like it don't buy it. Just feeling too much negativity here.

It's not negativity. It's just discussion. We understand that it's a business but it doesn't mean we can't be skeptical or disagree with the price they set. The Rancor is $350, for what it is,it really should be $250. Especially if the tiers they are offering for backing it aren't worth paying what Hasbro is asking for the Rancor. I really don't see how the Rancor wouldn't fit a retail model. Hasbro in the past has done huge toys like these and put them on retail shelves like the Snow Speeder and First Order Tie Fighter. Is Hasbro really aware though that if it's too expensive they will lose sales? They're already losing backers every day at $350 price point. Just because people don't agree with how this Haslab is being handled doesn't mean that they are being negative...

[usernameprime]

Personally I don't think there's enough negativity.

[MitchPower]

The proton pack is still selling fast even tough the unlocks are not too great, the hose should have been included at first, the lilttle puffs are cute, the sticker sheet...meh, only the stand is a worthy stretch goal if you ask me. Can't wait to get it tough. Going to have to buy an alice frame too, might as well go for a fully accurate cosplay at that poimt.

[Zeroflamez]

Originally Posted by usernameprime

Personally I don't think there's enough negativity.

You think there should be more?

[Ksteel]

[MitchPower]

Adam savage takes a look at the proton pack on tested
https://youtu.be/Uc2jXrxI1SU

[kentf]

Originally Posted by MitchPower

Adam savage takes a look at the proton pack on tested
https://youtu.be/Uc2jXrxI1SU

I’m about halfway through the video and it has made me so freaking excited to receive my pack in 2023.

[cobralegion]

Originally Posted by canprime

Most of the Haslabs, and kickstarters/crowd funds, in general have what I call the "bump, slump & jump."


They all start with a bump in the first couple of days. Then they hit the slump in the middle where usually there is a slow addition. Finally in the last few days the jump where they add a lot more backers.


Ever since the Sentinel the Haslabs have had a pattern of a big bump at the beginning. Then a slow period in the middle and in the final days another large jump. They can vary, but recently a lot of them had a jump at the end of at least 8,000 backers.



I don't imagine that the Skystriker will be as big as those, but if it can get close to 7,000 backers before the final few days it should see another big jump due to FOMO. That will put it over the top for funding, and possibly even get them up to at least the first tier.



The Rancor is another story. There is no precedent for this Haslab. None of the Haslabs have ever lost this many backers during the campaign. They may have been slow, or had a blip here or there, but to lose hundreds of backers over the course of a few days is unprecedented. This flips the whole Haslab model on it's head for the first time. Cookie Monster is the only Haslab to fail and it was anemic from the beginning (in regards to backers). The Rancor got off to a good start, but has always lagged behind the other 2 projects the entire time. Now with the large number of cancellations there is real fear that it may not fund. I still think there will be enough to get it across the goal line in the end, but I can't be certain anymore.

Thanks canprime. Its interesting that so many people wait until the end. Hopefully it makes it for the people who want it and hopefully next time Hasbro spends a little more money to give Joe fans something special.

[canprime]

Originally Posted by cobralegion

Thanks canprime. Its interesting that so many people wait until the end. Hopefully it makes it for the people who want it and hopefully next time Hasbro spends a little more money to give Joe fans something special.

There is always those people who wait until the last minute. Whether it is FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out), or other factors such as having the funds to pay. It has been a pattern since the beginning.


Also Hasbro is partly to blame for this as well. They are too stringent on their payment model. Pulse takes a bunch of different payment formats, but with preorders they only take credit cards. As well they expect the payment in full up front. So the day the backing period ends is when you have to pay the full amount.


When you have smaller retailers and other kickstarters that allow pay on delivery, or payment plans, it makes it even more nonsensical that Hasbro doesn't have something similar for their projects.

[canprime]

Update:




Skystriker: 5,629 / 10,000 (+9)
Rancor: 4,763 / 9,000 (-62)
Proton Pack: 10,006 / 7,000 (+650) !!!!!!




So the Skystriker had one of, if not the worst, days of the project only adding 9 units. At least it was still a gain on the day.


The Rancor. Man it lost more backers than the day before by a wide margin. Unless there is some miraculous turn around soon I am calling it a day for this project.


The Proton Pack really came out swinging from the Fan First Monday. 650 more backers!!! I'm sure the 1,2 combo of the movie coming out and the Fan First helped bump those numbers. However I also think they might have had an international orders bump as well. Either way it is now over 10,000 and should easily make all the tiers. I can see this one even going over the 20,000 number, unlike the other 2 projects.